据说刚离职的 iOS 负责人斯科特·福斯托（Scott Forstall）与苹果内部很多人不合，是否属实？有哪些引据？ 第1页

这个问题真好，虽然是我自己提的，但还是觉得很好，嘿嘿，希望这个问题能汇总网上各个传言的真实来源，而不是只管传，不管证实。

@Hadeswoo 讲了《华尔街日报》的报道，@张亮 引用了《彭博商业周刊》的报道。我下面补充其他国外可信媒体的来源。

◎《纽约时报》网站 Bits 博客

2012 年 10 月 29 日：In Shake-Up, Apple’s Mobile Software and Retail Chiefs to Depart http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/29/apples-mobile-software-and-retail-chiefs-to-depart/

But Mr. Forstall was also known as ambitious and divisive, qualities that generated more friction within Apple after the death of Mr. Jobs, who had kept the dueling egos of his senior executives largely in check. Mr. Forstall’s responsibilities will be divided among a few other Apple executives.

Mr. Forstall was a staunch believer in a type of user interface, skeuomorphic design, which tries to imitate artifacts and textures in real life. Most of Apple’s built-in applications for iOS use skeuomorphic design, including imitating a felt-topped gaming table in the Game Center application and a wooden bookshelf in the Newsstand application.

Mr. Jobs was also a proponent of skeuomorphic design; he had a leather texture added to apps that mimicked the seats on his private jet. Yet most other executives, specifically Mr. Ive, have always believed that these artifacts looked outdated and that user interface design on the computer had reached a point where such tricks were no longer necessary.

Mr. Forstall, who trained as an actor at a young age, also shared with Mr. Jobs a commanding stage presence at events introducing Apple products, often delivering his speeches with a pensive style that echoed that of Mr. Jobs.

According to two people who have worked with Apple to develop new third-party products for the iPhone, the relationship between Mr. Forstall and Mr. Ive had soured to a point that the two executives would not sit in the same meeting room together.

A senior Apple employee who asked not to be named said Mr. Forstall had also incurred the ire of other executives after inserting himself into product development that went beyond his role at the company. One person in touch with Apple executives said the mood of people at the company was largely positive about Mr. Forstall’s departure.

“This was better than the Giants winning the World Series,” he said. “People are really excited.”

【大意】

• 福斯托以其勃勃野心和自行其是而闻名，他这些性格特点在苹果公司里制造的冲突，在乔布斯去世后尤甚，乔布斯在世时一直设法让个性鲜明的公司高管能彼此压制和平衡。
  
• 福斯托在 UI 方面一向坚定地走拟物化设计（skeuomorphic design）路线，官方开发的游戏中心（Game Center）模拟牌桌，报刊杂志（Newsstand）模拟木质书架。乔布斯本人也很推崇这种 UI 风格，他还将自己私人飞机座椅的真皮质感加到了很多官方应用里去。但，大部分其他高管，尤其是乔纳森·艾弗（Jonathan Ive），一直都觉得这种人造风格已经过时。
  
• 福斯托和艾弗的关系已经僵到了，两人无法在同一间屋子里开会。
• 福斯托喜欢插手他职责范围之外的产品开发工作，这让其他高管很不爽。
• 一个拒绝透露名字的高级员工对纽约时报说，福斯托离开，苹果公司上下颇为欢欣。「比巨人队赢得了总冠军还高兴。人们都非常兴奋。」

◎ GigaOm

2012 年 10 月 29 日：From inside Apple, the Scott Forstall fallout http://gigaom.com/2012/10/29/from-inside-apple-the-scott-forstall-fallout/

Forstall’s firing was met with a sense of quiet jubilation, especially among people who worked in the engineering groups. Or as one of my sources quipped: there are a lot of people going for celebratory drinks, even if there is a little bit of doubt about their roles in the future.

……

Forstall had less-than-pleasant relationships with many senior executives, including Cue and Mansfield. My sources confirm what the Times reported earlier – Ive and Forstall had a rocky relationship.

【大意】

• 福斯托被干掉，苹果内部颇为雀跃，尤其是工程师团队。一个线人说：很多人跑去喝酒庆祝，尽管他们的工作未来还不知道会有什么变化。
• 福斯托和许多高管的关系的确很不好，包括和艾迪·丘（Eddy Cue）和鲍勃·曼斯菲尔德（Bob Mansfield）。线人也确认了一点，艾弗和福斯托的关系极坏。

◎ 英国每日邮报

Jonathan Ive interview: simplicity isn't simple http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/9283706/Jonathan-Ive-interview-simplicity-isnt-simple.html

When I mention the fake stitching, Ive offers a wince but it's a gesture of sympathy rather than a suggestion that he dislikes such things. At least, that's how I read it. He refuses to be drawn on the matter, offering a diplomatic reply: "My focus is very much working with the other teams on the product ideas and then developing the hardware and so that's our focus and that's our responsibility. In terms of those elements you're talking about, I'm not really connected to that."

【翻译】

　　当我提及（OS X 和 iOS 里日历应用的拟物化）人造缝制感时，艾弗退缩了一下，但这更多是一种同情，而非表示厌恶。至少，我是这么理解的。他拒绝展开这个话题，给了一个外交口吻的答复：「我的工作重心是和其他团队来做产品外观上的研究，并以此开发硬件。这是我的工作重心和职责范围。你提到的那些设计元素，其实和我关系不大。」

◎ FastCompany

Will Apple’s Tacky Software-Design Philosophy Cause A Revolt? http://www.fastcodesign.com/1670760/will-apples-tacky-software-design-philosophy-cause-a-revolt

Inside Apple, tension has brewed for years over the issue. Apple iOS SVP Scott Forstall is said to push for skeuomorphic design, while industrial designer Jony Ive and other Apple higher-ups are said to oppose the direction. "You could tell who did the product based on how much glitz was in the UI," says one source intimately familiar with Apple’s design process.

But before Forstall, it was Steve Jobs who encouraged the skeuomorphic approach, some say. "iCal’s leather-stitching was literally based on a texture in his Gulfstream jet," says the former senior UI designer. "There was lots of internal email among UI designers at Apple saying this was just embarrassing, just terrible."

【翻译】

　　在苹果内部，在这个（拟物化设计）问题上的冲突日益严重。据说，苹果负责 iOS 的高级副总裁斯科特·福斯托是拟物化设计的推动者，而负责工业设计的乔尼·艾弗和苹果其他高管则反对这种思路。「光看 UI 里有多少毛病，你就猜得出产品是谁做的。」一位熟知苹果设计流程的人士说。

　　但也有人说，在福斯托之前，史蒂夫·乔布斯是最推崇拟物化风格的。「iCal 的真皮缝制感完全来自他的湾流私人飞机的座椅。」一位前苹果高级 UI 设计师说，「苹果 UI 设计师之间有大量的内部邮件抱怨这个设计非常让人难堪，十分糟糕。」

◎ AllThingsD

2012 年 11 月 1 日：Behind Silicon Valley’s Un-Retirement: Why Bob Mansfield Is Back at Apple http://allthingsd.com/20121101/behind-silicon-valleys-un-retirement-why-bob-mansfield-is-back-at-apple/

Mansfield was not a fan of Forstall’s confrontational management style, and sources said he generally tried to avoid the iOS exec. Indeed, Bloomberg reported last year that Mansfield would meet with Forstall only if Cook were present to mediate. I’ve heard many similar stories.

“It wasn’t a him-or-me situation,” one source said of Mansfield’s return and Forstall’s departure. “But, put it this way, I think Bob was much more willing to commit to two more years once he knew Scott was on his way out.”

【翻译】

　　曼斯菲尔德不喜欢福斯托那种咄咄逼人的管理风格，知情人士说，他通常会躲开这位负责 iOS 的高管。事实上，《彭博商业周刊》去年报道称，曼斯菲尔德只有库克在场的时候才会愿意见福斯托。我已经听过很多类似的说法。

　　「局面还不至于是『有他没我』。」一位知情人士谈到曼斯菲尔德的回归和福斯托的离职时说，「但，可以这么说，我认为，鲍勃听说了斯科特会走人，会更愿意回公司再干两年。」

◎ 彭博商业周刊

2012 年 11 月 1 日：Apple’s Minimalist Ive Assumes Jobs’s Role for Design http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-11-01/apple-s-minimalist-ive-assumes-jobs-s-role-setting-design-vision

As Jony Ive worked on early iPhone designs before and since its 2007 introduction, he regularly held meetings in his design studio to get input from top Apple Inc. (AAPL) executives -- except one: Scott Forstall.

Even as Forstall oversaw the group responsible for the software that would run the iPhone, he didn’t participate in the meetings, according to people with knowledge of the matter who requested anonymity because the meetings were private. Ive and Forstall were rarely in the same room, the people said.

Clashes between Forstall and other senior managers since Jobs’s death a year ago had made it harder for teams to work together, threatening Apple’s ability to keep producing the kinds of electronics that made it the most valuable company.

Apple co-founder Steve Jobs was able to keep the executives’ long-simmering tension under control. Cook made the final decision to revamp management after Forstall refused to sign a public apology for the mishandling of mapping software, people with knowledge of the matter said.

Yet he contrasts with Forstall in key ways. Forstall was a polished presenter who enjoyed the limelight at Apple keynotes. Ive made rare appearances, preferring instead to appear in videos about the making of the product of the day.

Forstall was also the most divisive member of Apple’s executive team, people who worked with him told Bloomberg Businessweek last year.

Supporters admire Forstall’s ability to manage massive technical complexity while pushing his team to innovate. Critics said he was overly concerned with empire building and pushing through favored features while blocking other teams’ ideas. British-born Ive is known for his deliberate, careful choice of words, and for crediting members of his team while minimizing his own role in development of products.

【大意】

• 在 2007 年 iPhone 发布之前，乔尼·艾弗（Jony Ive）参与了早期 iPhone 设计。
• iPhone 首代发布后，艾弗定期在设计总部召起会议，邀请苹果公司其他高管来提供反馈和建议——只有一个例外：斯科特·福斯托（Scott Forstall）
• 乔布斯一年前去世后，福斯托和其他高管的冲突日益激烈，各人领导的团队之间也愈难合作，这威胁到了苹果持续产出那些令其成为市值最高公司的产品的能力。
• [艾弗] 和福斯托在很多方面都形成了反差。福斯托是一个精心装扮的演讲者（presenter），喜欢苹果公司发布会的聚光灯。艾弗则很少公开露面，更愿意出现在介绍产品诞生故事的视频中。
• 福斯托是苹果高管团队中最自行其是的。
• 福斯托的支持者欣赏他能够管理极为复杂的技术、并且推动团队不断创新的能力。批评者说，他过度关注建造一个帝国体系，为了推动自己想要的功能而不惜给其他团队的创意制造阻碍。英国人艾弗则是出名的说话字斟句酌，愿意将功劳归于团队成员，尽量不强调自己在产品研发中的角色。
• 福斯托从来不参加艾弗的产品评价会，艾弗也从来不参加福斯托团队的会。硬件和软件之间的隔阂在苹果早已是常态。库克希望通过提升艾弗，以获得更好的跨部门协作。