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如何评价福州外籍留学生违规载人又打骂交警暴力抗法,结果仅为带回学校加强教育一事?这一处理有何依据?

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福州外籍留学生违规载人、暴力抗法最终仅被带回学校加强教育的事件,无疑是一记响亮的耳光,扇在了我们对公平正义的朴素认知上。这事儿处理得轻描淡写,实在让人难以接受,也让人忍不住要深扒其背后的逻辑,看看这究竟是基于什么“依据”。

事件回溯,细节令人咋舌:

首先,我们得把这事儿捋清楚了。根据媒体报道,这位外籍留学生,在福州某高校就读。他不仅违法了交通规则,还在被交警依法处置时,选择了对抗。具体怎么个对抗法?不是普通的顶嘴争辩,而是殴打交警,并带有辱骂挑衅的性质。这已经不是简单的交通违章,而是赤裸裸的妨碍公务、甚至涉嫌袭警了。按照一般的法律程序,这事儿起码得拘留甚至追究刑事责任。

然而,最终的处理结果却是——被学校带回,加强教育。这个“加强教育”,听起来像是做错了事的幼儿园小朋友被老师叫去谈话,而不是一个成年人、一个法律的参与者所应得的惩戒。

处理结果的荒谬性在哪?

1. 处罚与罪行的严重程度严重不匹配: 违规载人本身是交通违法行为,而对执法人员施暴、暴力抗法,这性质就完全变了,升级为对国家公权力的挑衅。一个巴掌打下去,结果只换来“加强教育”,这简直是对法律尊严的蔑视。

2. 涉嫌“区别对待”的嫌疑: 最让人愤怒的一点在于,如果换成是中国公民做出同样的举动,特别是暴力抗法,恐怕等待他的将是截然不同的、严厉得多的法律制裁。这种“外事无小事”或者说“对外国人更宽容”的潜台词,让人感到深深的不公。这背后是否存在一种“宁事小不宁事大”,或者对外国人的某种特殊“优待”,令人质疑。

3. 对其他公民的示范效应: 这种处理方式,无疑会给其他普通公民传递一个错误的信号:在中国,从事违法行为,尤其是对外籍人士,似乎可以享有某种“豁免权”。这无疑会削弱法律的威慑力,甚至鼓励部分人冒险尝试。

所谓的“依据”在哪里?

要说依据,我们不妨从几个层面来分析,看看这种“加强教育”的处理,可能“依”的是什么:

1. “教育为主,惩罚为辅”的原则? 理论上,中国的法律也会强调教育和改造。但这个原则的前提是,教育和惩罚必须是适度的、与违法行为相匹配的。对于暴力抗法这种严重的违法行为,仅仅靠“加强教育”来“辅”,这“辅”得太离谱了,反而失去了教育的应有之义。教育也需要建立在对错误的明确认知和代价的基础上。

2. 《中华人民共和国出境入境管理法》等涉外法规? 有观点认为,在处理涉外案件时,可能会考虑到国际影响、外交关系等因素,从而采取相对“温和”的处理方式。比如,避免不必要的国际纠纷,维护国家形象等。然而,即便有这些考量,也不能以牺牲法律的公平性和公正性为代价。法律面前人人平等,外国人也一样,他们的行为同样要受到中国法律的约束。如果所谓的“依据”就是为了“少麻烦”,那这种“依据”本身就是扭曲的。

3. 学校层面的“管理权”? 将其带回学校“加强教育”,这看起来更像是一种学校内部的管理行为,而非公安机关依法追究法律责任。学校确实有管理学生的责任,但当学生触犯了法律,特别是严重到足以引起社会关注的程度时,公安机关的介入和依法处理才是正途。学校教育的范畴,显然不足以覆盖暴力抗法的恶劣行径。

4. 是否存在“和解”或“道歉”的因素? 事情的原委可能还有我们不清楚的细节,比如留学生及其所在学校是否进行了道歉,是否达成了某种“和解”。但即便如此,对于暴力抗法这种行为,法律的追究应该是独立的,不应轻易被事后补救所抵消。而且,即使道歉,也应该是对交警个人和对法律的道歉,而不是作为免除法律责任的理由。

深层反思:为何会出现如此处理?

这种处理方式的背后,可能折射出一些更深层次的问题:

对外国人管理和执法的尺度问题: 长期以来,围绕在华外国人的管理和执法,总有一些“特殊待遇”的争议。这种争议,可能源于过去的某些历史遗留,也可能源于对国际形象的过度考量,但最终的结果是侵蚀了法律的平等性。
执法权受到挑战时的回应力度问题: 面对暴力抗法,公安机关的执法权威是必须维护的。如果因为对方是外国人,执法部门就有所顾虑,不敢依法处置,那么执法部门的权威性就会大打折扣,对社会稳定和法治建设都是一个危险的信号。
公众期待与实际处理的落差: 公众普遍期待法律的公正和公平,尤其是对这种性质恶劣的行为,希望看到严厉的惩处。这种处理方式与公众的期待形成巨大反差,自然会引发不满和质疑。

总结:

福州外籍留学生违规载人又打骂交警暴力抗法,最终仅为带回学校加强教育的处理,在法律公平原则和正义要求上,几乎没有任何站得住脚的依据。所谓的“加强教育”,在性质严重的暴力抗法面前,显得苍白无力,更像是为了息事宁人、避免“麻烦”而采取的一种“折中”方案。

这件事情的出现,不仅是对执法者尊严的挑战,更是对中国法治精神的拷问。我们期待的是,在维护国家形象和国际关系的同时,更应该坚定地维护法律的尊严和公平,让任何违法行为,无论来自何方,都受到应有的法律制裁。 否则,我们所谓的“依法治国”,就可能沦为空谈。希望相关部门能够正视这一事件引发的公众质疑,并对此事做出更清晰、更有说服力的解释,以重建公众对法治的信心。

网友意见

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福州公安想一想,为什么全网都在骂你们,你们委屈吗?

一点不委屈!

一骂你们执法不严,面对袭警行为,当事民警一不敢喝止,二不敢采取强制措施,任由打骂推搡,最后落荒而逃。恶心!全国警察的脸让你丢光了!

二骂你们执法不公,中国人骂警察,你们果断拘留,外国人打警察,你们批评教育,这种选择性执法,让人如何信服?

这是什么年代了?大清还没亡吗,外国人还在中国的土地上横行无忌吗?福州公安的领导,你们的腰什么时候能直起来?就你们这样的执法素质,这样的执法理念,全国人民骂你,你还觉得委屈吗?


有些人,跪久了,真的站不起来了!

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先举报一手福州公安局

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谢邀,所以我们就可以看出来,社会的各种导向和民风差异真的很大,

在蒙古国和哈萨克斯坦,白人连在夜店勾搭当地女性都不敢,

因为他们怕被打,所以只敢在宾馆里面用Tinder,

Sexpat有自己专门的网站 Roosh V Forum

他们在上面每去一个地方,会写很详细的「Report」,

来讨论一个地方的女人好不好勾搭,男人敢不敢跟你冲突。

他们是会详细讨论的!你敢不敢跟他们冲突,他们会把你看得一清二楚。

另外不得不说,即便是经常被讥讽为「殖民地」的台湾和日本,白人都不敢这么嚣张。


乌兰巴托报告:

1、There also is a major anti-foreigner thing there, so you have to watch your back especially if you are white. Go google about it before you go. You don't want to fuck around with a Mongolian guy.

2、Ulan Bator is the only Asian city I'd consider moving to full time,great place,great women. Have to agree with nomadicdude about the men there,they can't handle their drink and when drunk they turn into violent dicks. Big powerful lumps they are too so you need to be careful at night.

3、Angry guys, indeed, one "taxi" driver was furious with me after I picked a girl to come to my hotel, overcharge me and was not far from hitting me. My advise also to avoid roaming in the night outside is to arrange for a reliable driver for your stay which will pick you up whenever you call him.

4、Problem with going to venues which do not cater for foreigners is exactly that anti-foreigner attitude, I went for one and was not successful at all, local guys will block you even if the girl is not related to them at all.

5、Yeah, Mongolian guys don't like to see foreigners with Mongolian girls. Three guys jumped me once when I was out with my Mongolia wife

6、just aggresive. They get drunk and like to fight. I'd see one fight every other day walking around at night

7、Any guy that walks around UB with a Mongolian girl is looking to get his ass kicked, very badly. They hate foreigners in general, but foreigners fucking their women even more. I'm with a Mongolian woman, and have a lot of Mongolian friends and I'm still very careful in UB.

8、In any case, making male Mongolian friends, or meeting girls in discrete locations (my hotel room) sounds like a necessity in central Asia... But not that much you can do really -- to get a flag you need to interact with Mongolian girls. Maybe I'll refrain from porking girls publicly.

9、There are several clubs that are frequented by foreigners, so you pretty much can go hang out there, I guess. There still might be some problems, but really, if it's a foreigner friendly place, the girls are hookers. (Of which there are a lot in Mongolia.) I'd be careful coming and going from the club, as alcohol is involved, and some drunk guys might just decide to jump a lone foreigner. I'm going to assume that you don't want to (just) bang hookers, though...

10、The best thing to do is counter that perception - build up your tolerance to vodka (no face-making, either), do whatever crazy shit they do and understand that there's worse ways to die than while doing something really fucking risky in Mongolia. That will earn their respect, if nothing else, and will increase your chances with their women. (Their women really care about masculinity. Perhaps a bit too much...

11、Your best chance with a Mongolian girl is when she's not around other Mongolians.

12、The kind of guy that's going to be visiting Mongolia (probably) is going to be sufficiently masculine (unless you're an auditor or something) to be attractive to a Mongolian girl, but if you're not really a take charge kind of guy, it will erode her respect for you in relatively short order and there can be problems.

13、Most of the Mongolian-White couples I've seen haven't held up because he "isn't strong enough" for her (and also, the guy was punching way above his weight in a fair fight on looks). What they perceive as "masculine" is a higher bar than what most of us would. The other issue is that most Mongolian women have zero interest in a career - virtually all want to be a stay at home mother. (Most women in Mongolia marry and have children in their early 20s.)

14、A lot of Mongolian guys aren't even really interested in their own women. (Ironic, given their Xenophobia.) The couple of Mongolian players I know are the only Asian guys that I know regularly date outside their race.

15、As a reputation, they are very high maintenance as girlfriends and the relationships don't work because they're incredibly demanding that you spend money on them (like a lot of Asian girls) and they're constantly insulting their boyfriend's manhood as a way of pushing buttons.

16、But, their materialism, hot tempers, and wildness rubs a lot of guys the wrong way eventually. You'll definitely need to be a party animal to keep up with most Mongolians and this will exhaust most western guys.

17、They also have a tendency to get fat. I've seen some skinny ones - like all Asians, a certain percentage of them is incapable of gaining any weight, but most tend to get chubby at an early age due to the high carb, high fat diet of meat and milk. Best teeth I've ever seen in Asia, or outside the First World for that matter. (Must be all the milk.)

18、One of the big reasons why I don't plan on visiting Mongolia is because I hear the guys can get legit rowdy

19、They respect strength and courage above all else, and believe that weakness and cowardice is a cancer which must be eradicated. This is why I do not subscribe to western men marrying these women and bringing them to their homeland. Western men will never understand their mind or value system which is deeply rooted.

20、I hear the dudes are big thuggish and looking to start fights with foreigners.

21、I've also heard that Mongolian guys can be a bit xenophobic towards foreigners. This Mongolian girl I know mentioned that it's because some foreign guys try to grope the girls in public, and this may piss the locals off. Not too sure about this.


阿拉木图报告:

1、I spent most of my time with Dantes and Chase during my time in Almaty, and we all faced varied levels of aggression from local guys during both the day and at night. As mentioned above, they absolutely can't handle foreigners going anywhere near their women and are extremely protective.

2、These girls are not super easy like South East Asia

3、I have never felt more threatened than I did in Almaty. This includes South America (Brazil). The danger from the local men and police is real. These are not the stereotypical scrawny Asians. These guys are built And aggressive. They can and will fight.

4、You will also get evil stares and possibly have to face aggressive behavior from local guys. Things can escalate quickly, there is a violent undercurrent to it.

5、They don't care about the police or the bouncers. They will fight dirty (weapons) and gang up on you.

6、I'm telling you man, it's all that vodka they drink. It's super cheap ($5 USD for a bottle) and they drink it like water

7、I had a great time, but the one night I went out, I would say I had at least 5-6 "incidents" with the local men which easily could have ended with a fight. They really don't like when you take their women. And, some local Brits told me it's far worse in other parts of Kazakhstan as well.

8、The first incident was when I and a Turkish friend who live there were talking to local girls, and he was bumped by a guy walking to the bar. I thought it was just an accident. But then the guy walked past again, and bumped my friend even harder. The bar staff then came by to thank my friend for not fighting. Incidents like this kept happening, as the local guys were serious cock blocks.

9、The men there protect their women and will cockblock you like crazy. I went out clubbing one night and almost got in 5 fights

10、For run-of-the-mill white guys like myself, expect to have incidents if you are going to hit on their women

11、Search other KZ threads and you will find guys talking about native kazaks talking to shit to them, trying to fight the RVFer, or staring at the RVF walking down the street with his Kazakh date.

12、I have been to over 50 counties, many of them would be considered dangerous by some. Kazakhstan is the only place I have felt danger. The local guys and the police will target you.Having a local wing will provide you with some insulation. I would not recommend going alone to this country, especially if you are white and do not speak Russian fluently.

13、I got full on shoved by a Kazakh dude at a nye party because one girl he was macking on ditched him to talk to me

14、I'm totally with you on the issue of the men in the region not being very welcoming,they can be especially unfriendly when drunk,I had a few minor issues in clubs with them

15、(1)there is no foreigner bonus and it's a modern, somewhat rich place

- (2)it's almost impossible to be flirtatious (or to sexualizing a conversation) at these dates, it's like they all have invented Teflon

- (3)the conversations are usually strikingly boring and it's like watching news when she talks

- (4)even if you can make them comfortable nothing will happen besides hand holding on date one

- (5)I tried different venues and tactics but on date one the most you can get is a kiss (that usually gives you an emotional reaction as if you just kicked her in the stomach)

- (6)it's not easy to motivate yourself to go on date 2,3,4,5 after the usual 2 hour boring conversation, a major 'teflon attitude' and the sheer amount of OTHER hot girls you can see everywhere during the day

- (7)you need to plan at least 3 dates, ideally 4-5 to seal the deal (of course there are exceptions)

- (8)many dates are more like interviews/ interrogations and every bit of your story will be analyzed, the sheer amount of mistrust is just insane

16、Opinions differ, but most PUAs here agree that it's difficult to hook up here. The chicks are mostly traditional and will feck if you promise to marry or after marriage.

17、Kazakh dudes are cool but a foreigner picking up their women can piss some off, boxing, MMA, and wrestling are popular here and guys in general like to fight. Girls may not want to leave venues with a foreigner because of this. You need to be situationally aware when out at night and in a place where guys are drunk.

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很失望,最后交警竟然没有给留学生道歉。

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因这件事气的肝疼的人

和天天说今生无悔入华夏的人

可能是一批人

每次类似舆论爆发后都群情激愤

然而人是"健忘"的

在而后的某一天

我们又会热情地称颂我们来之不易伟大的


仿佛现实版1984

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我少年时读《笑傲江湖》的时候,曾以为林平之才是真主角。

长大后还是觉得,金庸老儿太坏,只要没有主角光环,就把角色往死里整,林平之一开始,其实是个崇尚侠义、正义感十足的热血青年,之所以后来性情大变、行事极端,那是因为人家好人没好报,遭遇太惨。

当年在福建省、福州府,福威镖局有错吗?林总镖头有错吗?林平之少侠有错吗?人家一家行侠仗义,保一方平安,一点错没有,人在家中坐,祸从天上来。狗日的青城派余沧海,号称是一代宗师,却觊觎人家的绝学秘籍,一点道理不讲,欺负到头上了,甚至还要灭人家满门。

在城外的小酒店,余沧海的儿子余人杰欺男霸女、横行不法,当众调戏岳灵珊假扮的卖酒女,还有法律吗?还有王法吗?当我福州府无人?

这时候,是我们的林平之少侠拍案而起,怒斥淫贼恶徒余人杰:“甚么东西,两个不带眼的狗崽子,却到我们福州府来撒野!”

虽然林少侠武功不行,被恶贼余人杰一顿胖揍,但林少侠性格刚烈、不屈不挠,和恶势力斗争到底,绝不低头,虽然拳脚不敌,落在下风,但从头到尾都没有输了勇气,并且在绝境中,拔出匕首反杀了恶贼。

你要说少年林平之有什么盖世武功,真没有,他爹林总镖头有什么了不起,也没有,行走江湖,全靠关系打得好,三山五岳的朋友给面子。但是林少侠面对恶贼欺凌百姓,路见不平,挥拳相助,以弱敌强,最终手刃强敌,无论什么人,看到这一幕,都该竖起大拇指,夸一声:“林少侠纯爷们,真汉子!”

余人杰为何如此嚣张?还不是仗着他老子余沧海是一代宗师,武功盖世,觑福州府如无人之地,藐福州人如土鸡瓦狗,完全不把福威镖局放在眼里,所以才敢跑到门上来撒野,来挑衅。但他忘了,福州人也是有血气,有烈性的,容不得外来的贼子横行霸道,欺压良善。

林平之的老爹,林总镖头听闻这件事之后,是什么反应?老爷子明白自己几斤几两,也害怕余沧海的武功和手段毒辣,但当青城派杀上门来之后,老爷子却一点都不怪林平之,他高声喝道:“咱们姓林的杀了人便杀了,又怎么样?这种人调戏妇女、横行不法,欺我福州百姓,倘若撞在你爹爹手里,一般的也是杀了。

如果论武功,少年的林平之,福威镖局的林总镖头林正南,在《笑傲江湖》的武林体系中,连个屁都算不上,但要论侠义精神、硬骨头,可以说是一等一的英雄好汉。

要知道,后来福威镖局被青城派以毒辣的手段灭了满门,在他们全家面前,一个一个杀人,林家三口,几乎没有任何反抗的手段,林总镖头夫妇,也落到了余沧海手上,饱受折磨。但林家从头到尾,都没有屈服。

林少侠忍辱负重,背着血海深仇,艰难求生,到了最困窘处,连人家农妇的食物都不肯偷吃,可见他的人品和素质。无论他后来变成什么样子,最初的林平之,无愧于侠义道,是个真英雄。

讲实话,《笑傲江湖》的时代应该是大明,有《大明律》在,这帮匪徒居然敢在福州府横行不法,当众调戏妇女,侮辱百姓,乃至于得寸进尺,当街行凶,杀人害人,灭人满门,整个福州府,居然无人能管。

这福州府的当地执法机关,拿着大明的俸禄,却不作为,是要负责任的,是要向福州人民谢罪的。

大明执法机关不作为,那就是纵然恶人,弱者的生存权就会受到威胁,老百姓就没有办法去保护自己的生命财产安全。冤情无法昭雪,正义无法伸张,只能逼得林少侠好端端一个人,只能走了邪路,变得偏激、狭隘、反社会,用自己的方法复仇。

所以,大明的执法机关,自己要硬,面对不法分子,不管他背景是少林还是武当,是来自扶桑高丽还是海西,只要违法犯罪,破坏治安,那就得依法治罪,你们的飞鱼服和绣春刀不是摆设 。

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