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刚入关时的清军能否和巅峰时期的英国红衫军或拿破仑的军队抗衡? 第1页

  

user avatar   gong-ke-75 网友的相关建议: 
      

在拿破仑的炮兵面前,清军连列阵都无法完成。战损比可参见美军打伊拉克。


user avatar   zhang-ze-liang-68 网友的相关建议: 
      

拿破仑:满清蒙元一起上,给你们加个复制中心双倍出兵,照样来多少打多少。

拿破仑的军队是19时期初期世界最先进的军队,步兵全员配枪野战炮兵也基本成熟,那一轮炮兵轰上去。。。

谁会管你什么战斗意志。。。

战术。。。不好意思我们已经A过来了,隔着二里地就可以用炮轰你们了,你们讨论完没有。。。


(古斯塔夫二世的时候基本上就有成熟的大规模随军炮兵,而不是攻城的稀罕货,三十年战争开始的时候是万历末年,拿破仑的军队已经日新月异的进步了一百年)

不排除会有机会冲出炮阵肉搏的。。


不过拉纳,缪拉,内伊的胸甲骑兵,老近卫军教你做人,如果可以带小弟的话,还有华沙大公国东布罗夫斯基的羽翼骑兵。







这个问题虽然比“十万成吉思汗铁骑冲几个纳粹德国装甲师”正常一些(给我两辆管油管弹药的装甲车,我能从北京开到哈拉和林,如果能有个大喇叭做做宣传恐吓什么的就更好了),但是还是差距太过明显。


佐一个例子

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史上比较合适的例子是1898年恩图曼战役。比这早的时代没有机枪,比这晚的时代,像丧尸的宗教狂热者太少。这一战马赫迪宗教军兵力5万多,其中包括2万狂热的苦行僧,装备有15000条步枪和少量火炮,还有几千骑兵,对战2.6万英埃联军(其中真英国人8600)。

由于伊斯兰国的严酷生活方式,苦行僧们基本做到了“生亦何欢,死亦何苦”,能以万人规模决死冲锋,还能操作现代枪炮,后面跟着伺机突破的骑兵队,冲击力不是任何电影的丧尸团能比的。观战的丘吉尔(就是后来当首相的那个)高度评价了马赫迪军的勇气和狡诈(既能舍生忘死,也能做出抵消火力的诱敌战术)。然而英国人有40挺马克沁机枪……

一般认为,这一战马赫迪军的损失率在70%-90%之间(3-4万伤亡,5000被俘),其中有一万人死于马克沁横扫,剩下的无论死活也都躺在荒原上了(英国人无视了对方伤员),都是永久性损失。对面的英国人和埃及人总共只死了48人,伤了300多。(注意伤亡比例!)就算这300多人都是被丧尸咬的,相信英国人也能自己隔离被咬到的单位(留几挺机枪做预备队,必要时候从背后扫射被感染的团队)。

人家马赫迪从战斗意志到武器装备都比满清强的太多。。。

当然了,重要变量是马克沁机枪,但是拿破仑几千人的步枪方阵火力也不一定比不上40挺机枪吧,更何况还有野战炮兵,那火力不是一个类型的。。。


上文就是泛泛一说,至于欧洲19时机的军备嘛。。。

拿破仑时期的火炮

Napoleonic artillery
Cannons continued to become smaller and lighter—Frederick II of Prussia deployed the first genuine light artillery during the Seven Years War.
Jean-Baptiste de Gribeauval, a French artillery engineer, introduced the standardization of cannon design in the mid-18th century. He developed a 6-inch (150 mm) field howitzer whose gun barrel, carriage assembly and ammunition specifications were made uniform for all French cannons. The standardized interchangeable parts of these cannons down to the nuts, bolts and screws made their mass production and repair much easier. Another major change at this time was the development of a flintlock firing mechanism for the cannons to replace the old method of igniting powder in the cannon touchhole. The flintlock was a far more reliable (and safe) mechanism.
These improvements in the French artillery were essential for the later military successes of Napoleon. Napoleon, himself a former artillery officer, perfected the tactic of massed artillery batteries unleashed upon a critical point in his enemies' line as a prelude to a decisive infantry and cavalry assault.

拿破仑时期的胸甲骑兵(重骑兵)

Most heavy cavalry from c. 1700 to c. 1785 wore the tricorne hat, which evolved into the bicorne, or cocked hat, towards the close of the century. In the first two decades of the 19th century, helmets, often of hardened leather with brass reinforcement (though the French used iron-skulled helmets for their cuirassiers), replaced the bicorne hat.
A resurgence of armoured cavalry took place in France under the rule of Napoleon Bonaparte, who increased the number of armoured regiments from one to, ultimately, sixteen (fourteen cuirassier regiments plus two Carabiniers-à-Cheval regiments).
During the first few decades of the 19th century most of the major states of Europe, excepting Austria which had retained its armoured cavalry, readopted the cuirass for some of their heavy cavalry in emulation of the French. The Russians fielded two divisions of armoured cavalry, but most other states armoured a few senior regiments: Prussia three regiments, the Kingdom of Saxony three, the Kingdom of Westphalia two, Spain one (Coraceros Españoles) and the Duchy of Warsaw one. The three Household Cavalry regiments of the British Army (1st and 2nd Life Guards and Royal Horse Guards) adopted cuirasses shortly after the Napoleonic Wars as part of their full dress uniforms, but never had occasion to wear the armour in battle.
Cuirassiers were generally the senior branch of the mounted portion of an army, retaining their status as heavy cavalry—"big men on big horses". Their value as a heavy striking force during the Napoleonic Wars ensured that the French, Russian and Prussian armies continued to use cuirassier regiments throughout the 19th century.


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user avatar   jiang-zhe-bangumi 网友的相关建议: 
      

要回答一个问题,最后的解题方法就是代入法。

这我们就要来讲讲西帝的故事了

他到目前为止的职业生涯中的场均数据是

15.9分8.3篮板8.0助攻1.7抢断0.7盖帽

和题目设定的【得分10助攻10篮板10抢断2盖帽1】是差不多的

所以你可以想象出来题目的设定是一个怎么样的球员了吧??

就是一个得分更差但是助攻和篮板要稍好一点的“本西蒙斯”

当你找到那个代入点之后,问题就变成了这样

一个得分更差但是助攻和篮板要稍好一点的“本西蒙斯”,可以进名人堂吗?年薪是什么水平,可以做带队单核吗?

答案是不是已经呼之欲出了??

年薪嘛,顶薪有望,3000万打底吧(目前的工资帽)

单核??NONONO,你绝对不想

名人堂??看他能和谁一队咯。要是能累积一些团队荣誉,名人堂没问题。但是如果没有团队荣誉,只靠他的数据,基本不太可能




  

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